Comments on: Agrofuels are to oil and autos what filters were to cigarettes http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/ Here are snippets from the three most-recent postings. Click an article title below to read more. Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:40:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: J.D. Adams http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/comment-page-1/#comment-55556 J.D. Adams Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:35:17 +0000 http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/#comment-55556 Well, it's the tactics of the messenger I question. The energy bill article noted that Big Oil balked at the Biofuel clause, perfectly happy they were not. Auto mileage will be going up, public transportation will mature, electric cars will catch on, voluntary conservation will increase, and suddenly Big Oil will find itself with greatly reduced profits. Biofuels will be the undoing of Big Oil when alternative transportation proliferates and suddenly a few billion gallons of biodiesel is a major chunk of the fuel pie. Well, it’s the tactics of the messenger I question. The energy bill article noted that Big Oil balked at the Biofuel clause, perfectly happy they were not. Auto mileage will be going up, public transportation will mature, electric cars will catch on, voluntary conservation will increase, and suddenly Big Oil will find itself with greatly reduced profits. Biofuels will be the undoing of Big Oil when alternative transportation proliferates and suddenly a few billion gallons of biodiesel is a major chunk of the fuel pie.

]]> By: George Seldes http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/comment-page-1/#comment-55552 George Seldes Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:30:35 +0000 http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/#comment-55552 But the land the corn is grown on is capable of growing food that _is_ digestible by humans, and with far less petroleum inputs required than for corn. As for whether future technology will happen, isn't that irrelevant to subsidies that are paying out TODAY, raising the price of food TODAY, contributing to climate change TODAY, expanding the Gulf of Mexico dead zone TODAY? In fact, if you're hanging your hat on future technology then the last thing you want to do is encourage the status quo by making it so profitable. If you bothered to follow the link you would have found a good article pointing out how subsidies, once established, perpetuate themselves and the subsidized activity. In other words, the corn ethanol subsidies are helping PREVENT any improvements by rewarding the present destructive practices. Vile is putting food for people into competition with first-world gas tanks. You can try to attack the messenger all you want, but it's people supporting agro-fuels who are making the immoral choice. But the land the corn is grown on is capable of growing food that _is_ digestible by humans, and with far less petroleum inputs required than for corn.

As for whether future technology will happen, isn’t that irrelevant to subsidies that are paying out TODAY, raising the price of food TODAY, contributing to climate change TODAY, expanding the Gulf of Mexico dead zone TODAY?

In fact, if you’re hanging your hat on future technology then the last thing you want to do is encourage the status quo by making it so profitable. If you bothered to follow the link you would have found a good article pointing out how subsidies, once established, perpetuate themselves and the subsidized activity. In other words, the corn ethanol subsidies are helping PREVENT any improvements by rewarding the present destructive practices.

Vile is putting food for people into competition with first-world gas tanks. You can try to attack the messenger all you want, but it’s people supporting agro-fuels who are making the immoral choice.

]]> By: J.D. Adams http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/comment-page-1/#comment-55551 J.D. Adams Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:03:17 +0000 http://blog.onwardoregon.org/agrofuels-are-to-oil-and-autos-what-filters-were-to-cigarettes/#comment-55551 While you're picking tobacco out of your teeth, ponder how the vile tone of this rant is like your famous 'OLCV and George Bush' blog, and that maybe some positive energy would be a good thing. Unfortunately, the mountains of corn you're referring to is field corn, and not digestable by humans. I find you're insistence that future technology won't happen amusing. Only your criticism is stuck in the past. While you’re picking tobacco out of your teeth, ponder how the vile tone of this rant is like your famous ‘OLCV and George Bush’ blog, and that maybe some positive energy would be a good thing.
Unfortunately, the mountains of corn you’re referring to is field corn, and not digestable by humans.
I find you’re insistence that future technology won’t happen amusing. Only your criticism is stuck in the past.

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